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<p>Only kamctl and kamcli overlap in what they try to be. Maybe at
some point one will become more popular and the other can be
obsoleted. kamctl tries to have dependencies only among core utils
of a unix/linux system, but then it has the limitations of a shell
script.<br>
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<p>kamcmd is just a binrpc client and can be used inside kamctl if
wanted to send rpc commands via binrpc. In the past (ser/openser
times) we had a unix socket client app written in c and installed.
If kamcmd is going to be obsoleted, the ctl module makes no sense
anymore. binrpc is an alternative to jsonrpc and xmlrpc, just that
for these two curl app can be used as client.</p>
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<p>Cheers,<br>
Daniel<br>
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Alright, I was more thinking about it from a newcomer
perspective. When one is evaluating Kamailio, it will be
difficult to understand what to use. Documentations and
tutorials everywhere will be messy since all of them will use
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Also, from a development perspective, is it not a lot to
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If one could replace the other two, from my limited
understanding, I think it would be great to consider deprecating
the older ones when/if kamcli has full feature parity with the
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Cheers, Samuel</div>
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Daniel-Constantin Mierla <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><miconda@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 19:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] kamcli v1.1.0 released</font>
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<p>None of them is deprecated at this moment.</p>
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Both kamctl and kamcli can execute rpc commands, but over
jsonrpc (relying on jsonrpcs module), not over binrpc (which
relies on ctl module) like kamcmd. The features in kamcmd not
existing in the other are tab completion for rpc command names
and session like connection (can keep the history of rpc
commands in the same session).<br>
<br>
Not sure, not being a Python developer, but for kamcli it might
be easy to add tab completion for rpc command names, they can be
retrieved via rpc command system.listMethods. Even more, kamcli
relies on Python's Click framework and I read that it should be
easy to add support for bash/shell completion of its arguments.<br>
<br>
For the moment, I would say that kamctl/kamdbctl are enough if
you work with a pretty standard kamailio deployment. Kamcli
would be more useful if you need to extend the control tool with
some customized functionality.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Daniel<br>
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Thank you for the clarifications. It would be great to add
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It would also be nice to have a recommendation to users what
tool should be used by newcomers, ie. what is currently the
tool under development / not being deprecated.</div>
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href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><miconda@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 16:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Samuel F.; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] kamcli v1.1.0 released</font>
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<p>Probably we should put this information somewhere in the
wiki, for now here is sort of short presentation for each:</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>1) kamctl and kamdbctl are related, both being shell
scripts (developed over the time from the old
serctl/openserctl), the first is for interacting with a
kamailio instances, the second is only for creating (and
managing) the database structure needed by kamailio</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>2) kamcmd is practically only a binary rpc client that
interacts with ctl module from kamailio -- this was
developed by SER project during 2005-2008 (when we were
separately)</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>3) kamcli is written in Python and aims to become a
(better) alternative to kamctl (and kamdbctl), with a
plugin like architecture to extend it with new
subcommands, more flexibility (e.g., modules/libs from
python that can be used) and better error handling</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>For example, adding a new subcommand for kamcli means
adding a python script inside commands folder. This comes
handy if you have a kamailio installation using a custom
database table that you access via sqlops -- with few
lines of python script you can add a subcommand to manage
its records (add/remove/update), doing validation of the
values with python expressions to avoid inserting invalid
records...</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Another nice feature of kamcli vs kamctl is the ability
to choose the format for output -- e.g., jsonrpc response
can be presented in a compact form as yaml instead of
json.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Overall, kamctl and kamdbctl are part of kamailio source
tree and packaged inside kamailio debs/rpms, likely to
stay so, no plans to replace/remove them, at least in the
near future.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>kamcli is a separate repository (<a
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</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Daniel<br>
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Is there a writeup on how these tools differ and what
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Kamailio (SER) - Devel Mailing List;
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<div class="x_x_PlainText">Hello,<br>
<br>
kamcli tool just got its first official release, a
step forward in the<br>
process of packaging it.<br>
<br>
It is a command line tool that aims to be a modern
alternative to the<br>
venerable kamctl, being written in Python and
having already a large set<br>
of implemented sub-commands, such as:<br>
<br>
* subscriber – manage SIP subscribers<br>
* ul – manage user location records<br>
* address – manage permissions address records<br>
* aliasdb – manage database aliases<br>
* db – manage kamailio database content<br>
* dialog – manage active calls (dialog)<br>
* dialplan – manage dialplan records<br>
* dispatcher – manage load balancer (dispatcher)<br>
* group – manage group membership records (acl)<br>
* moni – continuous refresh of the values for a
list of statistics<br>
* mtree – manage memory trees (mtree)<br>
* ps – print the details for kamailio running
processes<br>
* rpc – interact with kamailio via jsonrpc
control commands (alias of<br>
jsonrpc)<br>
* rpcmethods – return the list of available RPC
methods (commands)<br>
* speeddial – manage speed dial records<br>
* srv – server management commands (sockets,
aliases, …)<br>
* stats – get kamailio internal statistics<br>
* tls – management commands for TLS profiles and
connections<br>
* uptime – print the uptime for kamailio
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The news article for this release is available at:<br>
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Kamailio World Conference -- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kamailioworld.com">www.kamailioworld.com</a>
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